Episode 20: Meaningful vs. Meaningless Conversation

Happy Tuesday, folks! This week we’re on vacation! But don’t despair: we took some time together a few weeks ago to pre-record this episode, so you’d get your regularly scheduled Tuesday afternoon podcast delivery! In fact, this episode is extra meaningful to us because we recorded it on July 1 - a date we consider the anniversary of all things Paul and Cheri. For this one, our first Heart episode, we got together in real life, had some lunch and recorded a conversation about what constitutes a meaningful thing! So, listener, what makes something meaningful to you? Cheri’s been trying to unpack that concept in her blog over the last month. In today’s podcast, Cheri and Paul take a stab at this question. Together they talk through what causes something to feel meaningful vs. meaningless, where and when they’ve discovered meaning in small moments, and what it means to get to the heart of a matter. Our exploration of meaning takes us to some big topics related to the heart: how do we sit with the suffering of others? What does it mean to allow others to see our authentic selves? What does compassion look like in our lives? How do we show up for those in our community? And how do we cultivate joy? In this episode, we give some ideas, suggestions, and some thoughts. Check it out! How do you find meaning in things?